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Ben Stine Doesn't Understand Science.
I find Ben Stine, for the most part, agreeable. I like his dry tone and subtle humor. I laughed as people won his money and as he bored the students on Wonderyears, but now Ben Stine is taking on a misrepresentation of science. He is talking about Intelligent Design, which is the idea that God was the helping hand behind the Evolutionary process. That there is a supernatural explanation for the existence of life. I will make clear to make a distinction between this and creationism. (although they are intrinsically connected.) According to the Christian Post Reporter,
“Scientists are supposed to be allowed to follow the evidence wherever it may lead, no matter what the implications are. Freedom of inquiry has been greatly compromised, and this is not only anti-American, it’s anti-science. Its anti-the whole concept of learning” said Stein in a news release.
Ben sounds like he is being very reasonable, Why can't Scientists proclaim a supernatural event? Well let's purpose another example of supernatural explanations. The earth shakes and crumbles and hot fire shoots out of the ground. Well the ghost inside the earth must be angry, I mean we know that the earth shifts and causes these events, but it is the ghost that causes the shift in the earth. No need for further explanation. That is as good of science as any secular explanation. Well the reason this is not science is the same reason that ID is not science.
First, Science makes no comment on the supernatural. By definition science (the study of the natural world) makes no claim on the supernatural. Some like to claim that science is the pursuit of truth. It is not that would be more Philosophy, Science is the pursuit of truth in such a way that it can be repeatable, testable, and falsifiable. ID does not do any of this, it doesn't even bring anything new to science. One cannot test the ghost in the earth nor the god in the man, so it remains outside of the realm of science.
“There are people out there who want to keep science in a little box where it can't possibly touch God,” said Stein in the film’s trailer. “ "Scientists are not even allowed to think thoughts that involve an intelligent creator.”
The little box is Science, and to reach outside of the box is too reach into pure speculation. Would anyone want to live in a world where scientists relied on supernatural claims. Claims that can be made without evidence. Also the ID people have a bigger problem than saying there is design in nature and it is God who put it there. The religious should stick to philosophy/theology and maybe Ben Stine should stick to being a lawyer, and author because science is outside the realm of Ben Stine.
Posted at 03:00PM Oct 09, 2007 by Dan Benjamin Smart in General | Comments[6]
Science - the scientific method - is as an objective tool that enables an individual to observe and process reality as it is.
Science doesn't need to get involved with INTENTION and DESIGN. That's not the focus of science.
Intelligent Design is THEOLOGY. There is no SCIENCE to it whatsoever.
SCIENCE will never prove God's existance because such a posit is mercurial by nature.
SCIENCE is a tool used to observe and record everything that happens in the Universe. It does not depend upon ultimate cause or intention.
PHILOSOPHY & THEOLOGY are the domains of ultimate cause and intention, but they are disciplines outside the rigorous pervue of objective SCIENCE itself because they are subjective.
Posted by Douglas Bryenldson on October 09, 2007 at 05:18 PM CDT #
Glad we are in agreement on the crux of this argument.
Posted by Dan Smart on October 09, 2007 at 07:05 PM CDT #
Ben, I will never denie God. I just saw your film Expelled. God was it good, go get them Ben. You the man!
Posted by Dave Christensen on July 31, 2009 at 10:57 PM CDT #
Thats awesome how people believe in actors more than evidence. How do i sign up for that gig?
Although, for people who haven't seen all the evidence, it's easy to be mislead. Stein should know better. He claims to have done 'research.'
youtube has better science content than Ben Stein.
Posted by kap0w on August 04, 2009 at 08:54 PM CDT #
Science is really a complicated matter. It involves a broad theory and a lot of systematic explanations. Great article. Very useful and informative. Thanks and more power!
Posted by Amor on November 16, 2009 at 06:24 AM CST #
science is a proof that God thus exist!
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